Mayday!
Bug found! After I have finished one turn playing GO 13x13 with Bot Greedy-One-Move by filling all my own eye positions (眼位/unfilled positions) and letting the bot fill the last one to capture all my stones, I continued to play another turn under the same game. And the game's now stuck, I can't resign, can't continue the game at the 301's turn, or starting anothe game. Please help me out!
Thanks a lot!

do you mean in playstrategy.org/ + eLCM76WU ? (edit: separating the link otherwise it freezes the page!)

Odd. I cannot seem to enter that game either!

At first I had questions (Why did you let that happen? that's not what you want to do. Or was it an under-the-stones tesuji?) but then I saw the thumbnail - that' s the only way to finish the game with that bot.

I am not affiliated with Playstrategy but I do not recommend to play go with Greedy-One-Move, or two-move - it's as far from what one is supposed to do in that game as possible, and then some. It's closer to random play.

I hope the admins will be able to sort it out terminating the bot or removing that game from your list.

With regards to a game of go (once your account is sorted): Feel free to send me a challenge if you want to try the game out.

I think you are right about the link (since I can no longer even get into that page!). Hope the admins will help terminate this ... situation.

And thank you for the invitation! I'm a beginner so I'm just using Playstrategy GO to get familiar with the basic rules. I think I will be able to learn something from you, clearly you play this game way better!

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Hi @Abrev_ni_Suillun

I've been able to set this game to 'Finished' so you will be able to start new games. It looks like the game is still impossible to load, so we'll look into that.

Games of Go 13x13 don't normally take longer than 84 moves each (as this is enough to fill up the board). I think by reaching 301 moves you've hit the site limit to stop games going on infinitely.

Remember that the only way to finish a game of Go is to have both players passing and agreeing on dead stones. This process is explained in our Go rules page here: playstrategy.org/variant/go19x19

For now, hopefully you are able to get back to playing and learning Go

This might stray from the original purpose of this thread, but I just wanted to mention @statmatt 300 is not unreasonable for a full-fledged game of 19x19 go, though.

See homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/misc/gostat.html
Quoting:
"In a collection of about 50000 professional games the number of moves ranged from 38 to 411. The distribution is bimodal, with the two tops corresponding to games that were resigned, and that were played out. The average length of a game was 211 moves, that of a resigned game 186 moves, that of a game that was finished and counted 257 moves. The shortest game lasted for 38 moves, the longest one took 411."

A quick look in the database of recent pro games shows easily games over 300 moves, they are not that uncommon.
A lot of games in go finish by resignation, but if it goes all the way to the counting stage, the endgame can be long.

For instance: [2024-10-09] 26th Chinese League A, round 13 Mi Yuting 9p (Black) vs. Xia Chenkun 7p (White) B+1.5 www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/117958
(might need an account to see the game on there, just for reference)

Thanks @ronin3b that is interesting to note.

However in this case we are confusing definitions of 'moves'. In the game that started this thread, it had reached 300 moves for each player (this can also be called 600 ply).

From looking at the homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/misc/gostat.html their definition of move is ply. And so 411 is their upperbound for ply in a Go 19x19 game.

As 411 < 600, I think PlayStrategy is ok.

I was wanted to talk about this bug, but I thought that the problem is from me :D

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Perfect and sorry for jumping up @statmatt when I read about this, but the last thing I would have wished on anyone is to play a serious, close game up to move 300, be nearly finished, only for the site to freeze... :D

It is no problem to raise it :)

I completely agree it would not be ideal if that was the case!

The definitions of 'move' and 'turn' vary from person to person and site to site and so its easy to confuse.

thank you all! I've been freed!

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