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1C2=5E3+52C5+4?!...said to be a bad move2...A6+53H2+3H2+34C5=6R1+15C6-4R1=46C6=5P3+17P3+1H3+48R1=2H4+39R2+7??C2=810C5=7R4=3?ties up 3 pieces11R9+1P3+112R9=2R9+213H3+4R3+214P5+1H3-5??15C7+4H5+6I thought this was a real fork.16R2=4H6-717H4+3R9-118C7=5H8+7??18...P3=219C8+7...checkmate
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  1. PraseodymiumSp yeah i think so too
  2. elise_mel here does not work but idea is maybe i can attack something
  3. elise_mel maybe this was the way
  4. elise_mel a4-5
  5. PraseodymiumSp i would have never come up with this lol
  6. elise_mel but ok it is possible
  7. elise_mel maybe i do this instead
  8. elise_mel it is possible bc maybe u can see horse needs some extra retreat path
  9. elise_mel maybe red doing well here
  10. PraseodymiumSp yeah
  11. elise_mel but tricky
  12. elise_mel black still have extra cannon
  13. elise_mel horse
  14. elise_mel here complications not over yet
  15. elise_mel maybe black doing well still
  16. elise_mel i think black can piece back to have good endgame
  17. elise_mel here i think i have stabilised and should win as long as i dont allow big attack
  18. elise_mel i think p3+1 very good try
  19. elise_mel something like this and i would lose
  20. PraseodymiumSp yeah
  21. PraseodymiumSp if this pawn isnt here
  22. PraseodymiumSp i would maybe have something
  23. PraseodymiumSp but alas
  24. elise_mel so we can pretend
  25. PraseodymiumSp maybe not
  26. PraseodymiumSp i was thinking of this
  27. elise_mel yes i saw this one
  28. elise_mel did not want to allow so i follow cannon
  29. PraseodymiumSp yeah, it's just a sily try
  30. elise_mel maybe sacrifice first
  31. PraseodymiumSp ohhhh
  32. elise_mel now is defend
  33. PraseodymiumSp that's really cool
  34. elise_mel it is i agree
  35. elise_mel but maybe still not enough
  36. PraseodymiumSp maybe not
  37. elise_mel i think wisdom is 3 pieces on same side
  38. elise_mel but here only 2
  39. elise_mel here u see even 1 strong knight is tricky
  40. PraseodymiumSp yeah
  41. elise_mel so knight should go forward
  42. elise_mel little trap
  43. PraseodymiumSp the king can escape here
  44. elise_mel yes
  45. elise_mel but u have to try
  46. PraseodymiumSp yeah
  47. elise_mel this would be funny way to get back in game
  48. PraseodymiumSp after that, im just dead
  49. elise_mel after rxc there is nothing left
  50. elise_mel 27 c6=4 last try really
  51. elise_mel not enough but some hope
  52. elise_mel that is all i think
  53. PraseodymiumSp yup
  54. PraseodymiumSp thank you!
  55. elise_mel ur welcome
  56. elise_mel btw out of chess xiangqi and shogi which is ur favourite and which do u think u r best at
  57. OOOOcat we play from here?
  58. OOOOcat both are good for red
  59. OOOOcat C8+4 and C8+7 both are good for red
  60. elise_mel ok yes i agree i think
  61. elise_mel oh no
  62. elise_mel how did it all go so wrong so quickly
  63. OOOOcat trap! can't eat horse
  64. OOOOcat haahha
  65. OOOOcat advisor is ok
  66. OOOOcat after that you gave me chance to attack
  67. elise_mel this one no good
  68. OOOOcat i might play c8=9 here but the sw advocates c8+3
  69. elise_mel i not understand this move
  70. elise_mel oh oops
  71. OOOOcat i dont too
  72. OOOOcat c8=9 is just to free up the pin
  73. OOOOcat and c8+2 just keeps the pin
  74. OOOOcat my bad
  75. elise_mel ah
  76. elise_mel it is defended then no good
  77. elise_mel not good
  78. OOOOcat the black cannon doesnt have much use hahaha
  79. elise_mel looks like this trick not good anyway
  80. elise_mel even if center is defended
  81. elise_mel this move u came up with by urself or computer idea?
  82. OOOOcat yea
  83. OOOOcat computer idea
  84. elise_mel wow that is very impressive
  85. elise_mel oh ok
  86. OOOOcat but i would have played rook
  87. elise_mel i miss backwards move all the time
  88. OOOOcat i might not see the cannon attacking down black's left flank until it was closer
  89. OOOOcat but the other moves i can see tho
  90. elise_mel my idea was to defend the knight by cannon
  91. OOOOcat yes that's why red's move becomes less effective
  92. OOOOcat plsu there is a threat on red's right
  93. elise_mel i think if u give me one more move it becomes much more obvious
  94. elise_mel yes
  95. elise_mel here i would think black is better
  96. OOOOcat it's still an even situation according to sw tho
  97. elise_mel :'(
  98. OOOOcat but as a human player i thought it was good for black
  99. OOOOcat since black car can move up
  100. OOOOcat i said it too soon ahhaahah
  101. OOOOcat misclick
  102. elise_mel oop
  103. elise_mel ok then knight jump not good
  104. OOOOcat this red cannon move im not sure what to make of it
  105. elise_mel what is idea i do not understand
  106. OOOOcat i think it's for this according to my understanding. let me show with green arrows
  107. OOOOcat once my king is up you have no way to attack with cannons
  108. elise_mel hm but why not do that anyway
  109. OOOOcat canno defending that line
  110. elise_mel oh i see
  111. OOOOcat or maybe planning to up advisor
  112. OOOOcat and shift cannon across
  113. OOOOcat i dk
  114. elise_mel hm ok makes some sense
  115. elise_mel btw
  116. OOOOcat lmao never ending block
  117. OOOOcat yes?
  118. elise_mel if repitition like this
  119. elise_mel is dumb i know
  120. elise_mel but by rule is it draw?
  121. OOOOcat wait let me see
  122. OOOOcat yes drawn
  123. OOOOcat when yoour piece can be captured while attacking another piece
  124. elise_mel oh ok so mate thread does not matter?
  125. OOOOcat mate thread is not a violation according to asian federation rules
  126. elise_mel oh right
  127. OOOOcat but if you play in china using china rules i believe its a violation
  128. elise_mel there are different rules XD
  129. elise_mel so complicated
  130. OOOOcat mate threat with check
  131. OOOOcat i think
  132. OOOOcat i think that's a violation . not sure
  133. elise_mel what rules r we playing with idk
  134. OOOOcat the rest of the world plays with axf rules
  135. OOOOcat asia rules
  136. elise_mel ok good to know
  137. elise_mel i was going to ask if there was internation rule as well XD
  138. OOOOcat international rule is the same as axf
  139. OOOOcat no difference
  140. OOOOcat wxf
  141. elise_mel what about this one if red and black both H2+3 H2-3
  142. OOOOcat world xiangqi federation
  143. OOOOcat breaking the chain
  144. elise_mel lol
  145. OOOOcat you have no kill bot anyway
  146. elise_mel ok if chain it is still draw right?
  147. OOOOcat yes
  148. elise_mel bc is only one capture threat
  149. elise_mel ok
  150. elise_mel if there was 2 capture threat then it is loss for chaser
  151. OOOOcat one capture and one offer/trade
  152. elise_mel one capture one trade also draw?
  153. OOOOcat two chase on the same piece by one or more pieces is a violation
  154. elise_mel oh has to be same piece
  155. OOOOcat one capture one trade also draw
  156. elise_mel is it possible to do two chase on two pieces
  157. OOOOcat here is where i think axf rules are stupid
  158. elise_mel lol
  159. OOOOcat so e.g
  160. OOOOcat your chariot can chase a horse for two moves, then chase a cannon for two moves
  161. OOOOcat and repeat the cycle
  162. OOOOcat and it's a draw!
  163. elise_mel haha that is very silly
  164. OOOOcat yes
  165. OOOOcat i think so too hahaha
  166. OOOOcat but china rules that's violation i think
  167. elise_mel hm ok good to know
  168. OOOOcat we don't play by china rules so..
  169. elise_mel i have to go and prepare for bed soon it is 10pm
  170. elise_mel but we can finish from this position
  171. OOOOcat sure
  172. elise_mel oh no
  173. elise_mel mistake so soon
  174. elise_mel so take advisor was a mistake
  175. elise_mel oh ok
  176. elise_mel pawns r too strong
  177. elise_mel my cannons look very silly too
  178. OOOOcat yeah no support
  179. OOOOcat but with rook it's a beast
  180. elise_mel yes this looks no good
  181. elise_mel need rook for cannon attack it seems i have learned
  182. OOOOcat yea
  183. elise_mel i forfeit here
  184. OOOOcat this is just a discussion haha
  185. elise_mel thank u for ur time and expertise
  186. elise_mel haha
  187. OOOOcat playing along from spike's game
  188. OOOOcat you can download the engine from pikafish.org
  189. elise_mel yes seems like i have lots to learn
  190. OOOOcat quite fun when you get to openings
  191. elise_mel xiangqi is tricky with cannons
  192. OOOOcat many traps
  193. OOOOcat i think that's what makes it fun
  194. OOOOcat no cannon it feels like a poor chessimitation
  195. OOOOcat without cannon*
  196. elise_mel lets go back to discord lol we r spamming spikes chat
  197. OOOOcat whoops
  198. PraseodymiumSp no its fine
  199. PraseodymiumSp its not spam
  200. PraseodymiumSp you are discussing relevant things
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